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Unit Lineage and Honors

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Added Lineage and Honors from the USA Center for Military History - SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 03:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Modular conversion

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>"As part of the modular conversion of the 25th Infantry Division, the 2nd Battalion was inactivated on 16 November 2005."

What does this mean and could someone please rephrase it for the article? What is "modular conversion"? Thank you. Rissa, Guild of Copy Editors (talk) 06:24, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MOH winners -Sgt Daniel Fernandez

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I'm Major Ted Rice USA Retired.  I served with Danny in Vietnam in 1965-1966  He was from Los Lunas, New Mexico.

(Moved from article.) Anmccaff (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Arrival into Cu Chi and setting up base camp for 25th ID

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Dear Mztourist you might have the resources to answer this. At Cu Chi Base Camp we have an article saying the camp was established in 1965. Meanwhile the VUA citation at this article seems to indicate 25th ID forces inc 1st Bn (M), 5th Inf, fought their way into the area and established the base camp under fire from January 1966. Because of this discrepancy I rolled back an edit linking Cu Chi Base Camp to this article.

Would you consider putting this discrepancy on your list of things to do? Right now I cannot link the 5th Infantry Regiment in properly with the camp article because the data does not match. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 05:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 2nd Brigade, 25th ID was moved to Cu Chi in late January 1966. Cu Chi MAY have been established prior to that by elements of the 1st Infantry Division (they were the only other major American unit in that part of III CTZ at the time), and it's also possible SF had some sort of presence there as well (though I'm not seeing any reference to that). Everything I'm seeing (Stanton, etc.) shows the 25th ID's 2nd Bde as the first major US unit in the area, and it arrived in early 1966. Intothatdarkness 03:09, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks IntothatDarkness. Just to triplecheck, you have a copy of Stanton, Vietnam Order of Battle, which you have checked regarding this? If you can give me the page references for the arrival of 2nd Bde (strange to read about "2nd Brigade Task Force," as I thought under ROAD brigades just carried around whatever div slices they needed without an extra title), I will amend both the 5th Inf Regt and Cu Chi Base Camp articles. In the absence of countervailing referenced data I will write that Cu Chi Base Camp was established by 2nd Bde, 25th ID, which is supported by the VUA citation. We can always add 1st ID and elements MACVSOG/5th Group later if solid references appear. Many thanks for your help!! (--Buckshot06)
The ref for Cu Chi is in both Stanton's Order of Battle and Rise and Fall of an American Army. I suspect the TF reference might have come from some combination of the 25th ID's advance party (which actually selected Cu Chi as the division's main base camp...likely in late 1965 even though Stanton doesn't give an exact date) and the 2nd Bde elements that actually secured Cu Chi in January. I'm checking Bergerud's works on the 25th ID (the 1966 date is confirmed in his first book, and I'm still looking for Red Thunder, Tropic Lightning amongst the unpacking stuff) to see if there's anything there. For Rise and Fall (Presidio 1985) the info's on p72. Stanton's OOB has the division HQ setting up at Cu Chi in March 1966 (p81). 1/5 Inf is shown as arriving there in Jan 66 (p138). I don't think SOG was ever at Cu Chi, and I haven't located any reference to a 5th Group CIDG camp or advisory element being there either. The 1st ID reference is a nagging recollection of something I read somewhere related to one of their units working the area, but I don't recall which unit and have yet to be able to confirm that. Stanton (p146 OOB) also places 1/27 Inf and 2/27 Inf at Cu Chu in Jan 1966. Intothatdarkness 13:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again many thanks !! Buckshot06 (talk) 05:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. And I did find my copy of Red Thunder, Tropic Lightning. Bergerud says the 25th ID's advance party likely picked Cu Chi as the division base camp in Dec 1965 (which might be where the article got that date), but no units moved there until Jan 1966. Intothatdarkness 12:10, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 2024

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User:Buckshot06 as you refuse to follow WP:BRD and instead editwar, justify your claim that "standard term is DMZ". Mztourist (talk) 06:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you kidding? Every U.S. military unit that serves on the Korean Peninsula constantly refers to the "DMZ." It's in every unit history. It's often introduced without being spelled out in full first time. Buckshot06 (talk) 06:37, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I am not kidding. As you well know there was a Vietnamese demilitarized zone in Vietnam. So on WP we use the defined term first and then add the DMZ abbreviation: "Korean demilitarized zone (DMZ)" and subsequently just use DMZ. Mztourist (talk) 10:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We follow the sources. This is not the practice in the written sources regarding U.S. infantry battalions in Korea. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, we use the Commonname and define down to DMZ. Mztourist (talk) 05:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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